Corporate Net Zero: Shift or Sham? The REAL 2026 Predictions

With Katie Neck,
Managing Director and Founder, Sustained Futures
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen welcome Katie Neck, founder of Sustained Futures, as she shares lessons from Formula 1, explains the urgent need to close the global “green skills gap,” and discusses effective ways to upskill both corporate teams and young people for climate action. The conversation covers the evolution of sustainability in business, the pitfalls of overreliance on jargon and carbon offsets, and the power of entrepreneurial action and optimism in facing climate challenges. Listeners will gain insights into fostering practical climate solutions, the importance of accessible green education, actionable strategies for creating real impact in their communities and organizations, and so much more.

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

  • Welcome to Today’s Episode with Katie Neck (0:58)
  • Optimism in Climate and Skills Gap (3:07)
  • Katie’s Path From F1 to Sustainability (6:06)
  • F1’s Move Toward Sustainable Fuels (8:56)
  • F1’s Environmental Strategies Discussed (11:47)
  • Shift From Consulting to Entrepreneurship (14:22)
  • Launching Sustained Futures (15:34)
  • Winning First Client and Early Growth (18:29)
  • Expanding Into U.S. Market (21:11)
  • ESG Approaches Across Regions (23:12)
  • Football and Building a Sustainability Brand (25:06)
  • Procurement and Employee Upskilling Focus (27:03)
  • Connecting Youth Education to Projects (29:48)
  • Barriers to Hands-On Learning in Schools (31:26)
  • Virtual Impact Academy Launch (36:05)
  • Rethinking Public Versus Private Education (38:29)
  • Alternative Learning Models Emerging (41:07)
  • Hope for the Future and Call to Action (42:37)

 

The nexus of business, policy, and sustainability is more divided than ever, but Less Talk, More Action is here to cut through the noise. Hosted by clean energy experts Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett, this podcast dives into the front lines of decarbonization, net-zero real estate, and entrepreneurship. Each episode features bold questions, real solutions, and stories from leaders in science, tech, and business who are taking action to make the world a better place. Join us as we move beyond talk and work toward a cleaner, net-zero future. Learn more and subscribe at lesstalkmoreaction.com.

About the Hosts

Joel Cesare
Joel Cesare is a visionary leader in sustainable real estate, currently serving as Growth Lead at Cambio, an AI building retrofit analytics platform. He previously led Google's $50B global net zero real estate program and oversaw the building of Santa Monica's City Hall East, one of the world's greenest buildings. Recognized with awards like ENR Top 25 Newsmaker, Living Future Hero, Building Design & Construction 40 under 40, his mission is to dream, inspire and deliver.
Owen Barrett
Owen Barrett is the world's foremost expert in solar on multifamily properties. Owen is currently the CEO of Shine and has over 12 years of experience in the clean technology sector covering fuel cells, HVAC, LED lighting, and of course, solar. Owen is the former Global Energy Manager of a Fortune 500 company and a successful founder with two exits.

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