Breaking the Grid: How Innovation is Reshaping Energy

With Jigar Shah,
Co-Host, The Open Circuit Podcast | Senior Fellow, World Resources Institute
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen are joined by clean energy leader Jigar Shah to discuss the evolution and future of sustainability, clean tech, and decarbonization. The conversation covers the importance of affordability and execution in clean energy solutions, the challenges and opportunities in distributed energy and grid flexibility, and the need for industry transparency and collaboration. Jigar shares career insights, advice for entrepreneurs, and a hopeful vision for 2035, predicting the end of global energy poverty and the dominance of clean energy. Listeners will gain practical takeaways on driving impact, overcoming industry barriers, the power of collective action in building a sustainable future, and so much more.

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

  • Jigar’s Influential Career (3:23)
  • Taking Action for Affordability (4:07)
  • Early Days of SunEdison & Solar Costs (5:55)
  • Career Path & Impact Advice (7:24)
  • Entrepreneurship, Execution, and Team Building (10:50)
  • Jigar’s Superpowers (14:38)
  • Industry Transparency & Sharing Lessons (16:54)
  • Electricity Supercycle & Grid Flexibility (22:21)
  • Investment Advice: Painkillers vs. Vitamins (29:42)
  • Innovative HVAC Solutions (32:06)
  • Crisis as Catalyst for Innovation (34:06)
  • Distribution Grid & Demand Flexibility (37:59)
  • EVs, Bidirectional Charging, and Home Integration (39:39)
  • 2035 Crystal Ball: Clean Energy Dominance (42:18)
  • Hope for the Future (48:08)
  • Connecting with Jigar and Episode Conclusion (50:30)

 

The nexus of business, policy, and sustainability is more divided than ever, but Less Talk, More Action is here to cut through the noise. Hosted by clean energy experts Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett, this podcast dives into the front lines of decarbonization, net-zero real estate, and entrepreneurship. Each episode features bold questions, real solutions, and stories from leaders in science, tech, and business who are taking action to make the world a better place. Join us as we move beyond talk and work toward a cleaner, net-zero future. Learn more and subscribe at lesstalkmoreaction.com.

 

About the Hosts

Joel Cesare
Joel Cesare is a visionary leader in sustainable real estate, currently serving as Growth Lead at Cambio, an AI building retrofit analytics platform. He previously led Google's $50B global net zero real estate program and oversaw the building of Santa Monica's City Hall East, one of the world's greenest buildings. Recognized with awards like ENR Top 25 Newsmaker, Living Future Hero, Building Design & Construction 40 under 40, his mission is to dream, inspire and deliver.
Owen Barrett
Owen Barrett is the world's foremost expert in solar on multifamily properties. Owen is currently the CEO of Shine and has over 12 years of experience in the clean technology sector covering fuel cells, HVAC, LED lighting, and of course, solar. Owen is the former Global Energy Manager of a Fortune 500 company and a successful founder with two exits.

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