Maybe Software Can Help Decarbonize Buildings

With McGee Young,
Founder and CEO, WattCarbon
In this episode of Less Talk, More Action, Joel and Owen welcome McGee Young, Founder and CEO of WattCarbon, a software platform revolutionizing building decarbonization. McGee explains how his technology provides real-time, automated measurement and verification of energy projects, helping organizations track and prove their carbon reduction efforts. The discussion covers the challenges of decarbonization, the importance of data transparency, and innovative approaches to reducing emissions, such as value-stacking benefits across energy projects. Key takeaways include the potential for software to accelerate climate action, the need for clear ROI in sustainability investments, and the importance of moving beyond virtue signaling to create meaningful environmental impact. McGee's optimistic perspective, rooted in creating a better world for future generations, provides hope and practical insights for listeners interested in climate technology and sustainable solutions. Don’t miss this great conversation!

Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

  • Skepticism about Software (1:37)
  • Building Energy Performance Standards Explained (2:30)
  • Discussion on Fine Proceeds (5:04)
  • Grocery Store Bag Fee Discussion (9:07)
  • Behavior Change and City Policies (11:11)
  • Introduction to McGee’s Work (13:11)
  • Software’s Role in Decarbonization (15:15)
  • The Role of Measurement and Verification (19:51)
  • Integrating Data from Various Sources (23:27)
  • Digital Cousins Concept (27:18)
  • Challenges with Legacy Systems (30:11)
  • The Importance of Data Transparency (35:19)
  • Emissions Targets and Corporate Responsibility (40:06)
  • Proving the Mission Story (43:41)
  • Data Centers and Demand Response (46:55)
  • Community Benefits and Utility Negotiations (50:23)
  • Hope for the Future (51:02)
  • Connecting with McGee and Parting Thoughts (52:04)

The nexus of business, policy, and sustainability is more divided than ever, but Less Talk, More Action is here to cut through the noise. Hosted by clean energy experts Joel Cesare and Owen Barrett, this podcast dives into the front lines of decarbonization, net-zero real estate, and entrepreneurship. Each episode features bold questions, real solutions, and stories from leaders in science, tech, and business who are taking action to make the world a better place. Join us as we move beyond talk and work toward a cleaner, net-zero future. Learn more and subscribe at lesstalkmoreaction.com

About the Hosts

Joel Cesare
Joel Cesare is a visionary leader in sustainable real estate, currently serving as Growth Lead at Cambio, an AI building retrofit analytics platform. He previously led Google's $50B global net zero real estate program and oversaw the building of Santa Monica's City Hall East, one of the world's greenest buildings. Recognized with awards like ENR Top 25 Newsmaker, Living Future Hero, Building Design & Construction 40 under 40, his mission is to dream, inspire and deliver.
Owen Barrett
Owen Barrett is the world's foremost expert in solar on multifamily properties. Owen is currently the CEO of Shine and has over 12 years of experience in the clean technology sector covering fuel cells, HVAC, LED lighting, and of course, solar. Owen is the former Global Energy Manager of a Fortune 500 company and a successful founder with two exits.

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